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so youguys got any idea what tree this crotch is from
it dont smell like oak bark is a little pailer than oak

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My wood id skills are suspect. I tried to blow up those pictures but they turned too grainy. Do you have some larger shots you can download? How about some leaves or twigs or whatever history you can tell us about this lumber?

ill try

i never got to see the leaves
i wonder if its box elder but i dont know
white wood for most part
was growing in a creek that is dry most of the year the roots got uncovred in a rain storm & it fell over

I don't think it's boxelder. Boxelder has a distinct firey-red heart. Its wood doesn't weigh much.

Boxelder wood picture
Boxelder bark picture
More Boxelder bark/tree/etc. pictures

The bark is giving me mixed clues but it looks like one of the red oaks. Some red oaks I've milled after the surfaces of the boards dried they were whiter than white oak. Was the wood heavy?

it was to light weight for oak

Some possibilities:

Red maple
Elm
Cucumber tree
Basswood
Hackberry
More?

From here it's a process of elimination.

well the bark doesent look like maple i didnt think altho im not real familar with all the maples
not elm
hackberry we got lots of that her it has these little nubbes on bark
basswood i dont know might be.

You said the wood was much whiter than the picture showed. That, and it being a crotch, can may id more difficult.

I'm not liking basswood. It's grain is subtle and the bark looks different to me.
Basswood wood picture

Ok, nothing about the appearance of the wood looks like tulip (yellow) poplar but the bark itself could be seen as poplar.
Yellow poplar wood picture

My favorites at the moment are:
Red maple (Remember - it's bark can vary a lot.)
Elm
Tulip poplar
Red oak (Could it be that it was dry when you milled it and that's why it didn't weigh much?)

oak is what we have here on the farm its what i mill the most unless its some kind of water oak deffently not red oak tulip (yellow) poplar i have never seen this tree that i know of so cant rule that out does it grow in sw mo.
the picture does look a lot like the grain of this tree
wish i could have seen the leaves
not elm we got lot of elm the trunk at the stump flarrs out on elm at least here & bark is different
basswood grain looks different

The range maps show it in SE Mo. but not SW. Could you have a rogue tree? At this time of year you can spot tulip poplar by the seed pods (I don't know what they're called) in their tops. They can be seen from 100' away so it's easy to id them. Get a shot of the top and/or some twigs. Good shots of the twigs are most important.

this tree had our north boundry fence stretched to it when last years ice storm uprouted it
we are 40 miles north of springfield

Just by the picture, Northern red oak would have been my first guess. If its been dead some time, that could explain the paler wood tone and light weight. If you are certain that its not oak, then maybee Ashe, or some kind of Hickory are possibilties. I think I would rule out Maple, cucumber, and basswood from TBs list. Could you hold a piece of it up next to your computer so I can sniff it?